Inflation here? gas/grocery prices just continue to climb (1 Viewer)

[dtc]

Anyone noticed that the second gas and oil prices started to drop that there are dozens of re-hashed posts about electric car battery prices/pollution, waiting lines for charging, references to coal powered electricity and doom and gloom about moving away from gas? Seemed to hit like a ton of bricks Monday.

 

[faceman]

Anyone noticed that the second gas and oil prices started to drop that there are dozens of re-hashed posts about electric car battery prices/pollution, waiting lines for charging, references to coal powered electricity and doom and gloom about moving away from gas? Seemed to hit like a ton of bricks Monday.

All of us will be dead by the time the internal combustion engine is phased out.

 

[dtc]

All of us will be dead by the time the internal combustion engine is phased out.

That may be so, but the proportion of automobiles burning gasoline is on a steep decline and you only to look at the ever increasing pace of auto manufacturer's announcements.

The new 1200 hp Maserati looks cool. The new Porsche Taycan is cool. The 718 and upcoming 911 are going to be silly cool. That new Ford Pickup is incredible....

But my point was more basic.

Every single time fuel prices go up there is a trained and predictable response that shows pictures of flooded tesla charger stations and warns of the pollution due to batteries. It's similar to the landfill warnings for windmill blades.

I wonder why.

 

[faceman]

That may be so, but the proportion of automobiles burning gasoline is on a steep decline and you only to look at the ever increasing pace of auto manufacturer's announcements.

The new 1200 hp Maserati looks cool. The new Porsche Taycan is cool. The 718 and upcoming 911 are going to be silly cool. That new Ford Pickup is incredible....

But my point was more basic.

Every single time fuel prices go up there is a trained and predictable response that shows pictures of flooded tesla charger stations and warns of the pollution due to batteries. It's similar to the landfill warnings for windmill blades.

I wonder why.

True, we still going before the gas engine. Nuclear is the cu8rrent best answer. The problem is nimby

 

[Goatman Saint]

The other, and what will hold me back from buying an electric truck is that I do use it for week long trips into the back country to go camping. How do I keep it charged and ready to go parked for a week under trees? Sure 400 mile range is great. But when I camp 250+ and am gone for a week, is it going to get me out of there?

 

[dtc]

The other, and what will hold me back from buying an electric truck is that I do use it for week long trips into the back country to go camping. How do I keep it charged and ready to go parked for a week under trees? Sure 400 mile range is great. But when I camp 250+ and am gone for a week, is it going to get me out of there?

Probably not, but you're planning on buying a vehicle for the most extreme flexibility you might need. Most people don't have to worry about spending a week in the shade 250 miles from power.

The Ford I ordered can sit in my office parking lot each night and the young man who drives it never - EVER - drives more than about 100 miles per day. The compressor and generator are going to be extremely handy for him, but we don't have the same needs as you.

My in-laws have a Tesla and a Panamera. They take the Tesla on their trips and never complain, but they do plan their trips around charging stations. In the past 3 years they've been around the country with about 30k miles on the Tesla and maybe 5k on the Porsche. When they buy the replacement for the Porsche they're getting the big Mercedes and not a Taycan because they don't want to have 2 EVs just in case.

All that said, over the next 10 years, EVs will be more popular than gas, but gas and diesel will still be necessary and there's no way I could go without diesel trucks for our work. Hell, I doubt we ever replace diesel cranes and excavators, lulls and skid steers with electricity, but you never know.

 

[SaintInBucLand]

True, we still going before the gas engine. Nuclear is the cu8rrent best answer. The problem is nimby

Agree, I just don't get why so many people are against nuclear, if you follow science, it is the most dependable, safest and cleanest forms of energy we currently have.

 

[dtc]

Agree, I just don't get why so many people are against nuclear, if you follow science, it is the most dependable, safest and cleanest forms of energy we currently have.

I agree except when you have a madman like Putin taking them over.

 

[faceman]

I agree except when you have a madman like Putin taking them over.

Nuclear power plants don't produce the fuel needed for a weapon.

Debunking myths on nuclear power (it’s not for making bombs)

It is the received wisdom that nuclear weapons and nuclear power are inseparable. Consequently, any country that builds a civilian nuclear power station is able to build an atomic bomb within a couple…

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[dtc]

Nuclear power plants don't produce the fuel needed for a weapon.

Debunking myths on nuclear power (it’s not for making bombs)

It is the received wisdom that nuclear weapons and nuclear power are inseparable. Consequently, any country that builds a civilian nuclear power station is able to build an atomic bomb within a couple…

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When attacked or sabotaged they don't need to produce a weapon. Chernobyl didn't produce a weapon and neither did the one in Japan, but they caused all sorts of issues.

 

[faceman]

When attacked or sabotaged they don't need to produce a weapon. Chernobyl didn't produce a weapon and neither did the one in Japan, but they caused all sorts of issues.

modern plants cant melt down like chernoblyl. they are environment friendly

 

[SaintInBucLand]

modern plants cant melt down like chernoblyl. they are environment friendly

Plus they don't have this guy working in them..

 

[faceman]

When attacked or sabotaged they don't need to produce a weapon. Chernobyl didn't produce a weapon and neither did the one in Japan, but they caused all sorts of issues.

No, modern plants can't melt down. It's a fact known for many years now. Would I welcome one? Yes. Sadly many don't due to ignorance

Here's why a Chernobyl-style nuclear meltdown can't happen in the United States

That doesn't mean US nuclear power plants are immune — a Fukushima Daiichi-style meltdown could happen.

www.businessinsider.com

 

[DaveXA]

No, modern plants can't melt down. It's a fact known for many years now. Would I welcome one? Yes. Sadly many don't due to ignorance

Here's why a Chernobyl-style nuclear meltdown can't happen in the United States

That doesn't mean US nuclear power plants are immune — a Fukushima Daiichi-style meltdown could happen.

www.businessinsider.com

Well, they can melt down technically. They just won't in the same way as Chernobyl for the reasons stated in the article. There still could be a Fukushima style accident though, however unlikely.

I do support more investments into nuclear energy though.

 

[faceman]

Well, they can melt down technically. They just won't in the same way as Chernobyl for the reasons stated in the article. There still could be a Fukushima style accident though, however unlikely.

I do support more investments into nuclear energy though.

not gonna happen here mon frere. We gottaa invest in nuclear. my home is coal fired. That needs to go away