Nick Underhill: Saints Might Not Move on from DA (53 Viewers)

[St. Geezy]

Our cap issues make it hard to shore up weak areas. $80M over will make it hard to improve or change the trajectory of this team.

People think the team will change course by getting rid of DA, I am not so sure. Roster has glaring weaknessess and no way to address them due to Mickey's poor drafting and cap mismanagement. Dust off your paper bag, tough times are ahead.

One day, people are going to grasp the concept. We are simply using next year’s dollars in advance constantly. Pointing to the cap as our main problem is just pointing to a boogeyman. We CHOSE not to do it as much this year just to reset things slightly.

It’s not the big deal it is made out to be; we totally could have spent more this off-season but opted not to.

 

[Hank]

Do we have any good news????

lose to the Panthers and he will be gone.

 

[No2DC]

One day, people are going to grasp the concept. We are simply using next year’s dollars in advance constantly. Pointing to the cap as our main problem is just pointing to a boogeyman. We CHOSE not to do it as much this year just to reset things slightly.

It’s not the big deal it is made out to be; we totally could have spent more this off-season but opted not to.

Same story, new year.

 

[St. Geezy]

Same story, new year.

Are we drafting well? Are we coaching well? Are we staying healthy?

If those three answers are no, your team likely has issues winning in this league.

Accounting ledgers and budgets don’t win games, especially considering the fact that we have never been big free agency spenders outside of once every blue moon.

 

[solarbear88]

One day, people are going to grasp the concept. We are simply using next year’s dollars in advance constantly. Pointing to the cap as our main problem is just pointing to a boogeyman. We CHOSE not to do it as much this year just to reset things slightly.

It’s not the big deal it is made out to be; we totally could have spent more this off-season but opted not to.

You seem to think that everyone who comments on the Cap doesn't understand how it works. I understand how it works and why they use it like they do.

But I also know that it limits our off season signings to the bottom of the barrel as we've seen for the past few seasons. And the current players taking the biggest chunk of our payroll are not producing much.

Loomis follows the exact opposite pattern Bill Walsh advocated. Bill told his All Pro centre he would trade him soon, while he was in his prime and his value was high, rather than hold onto him till he declines. The moves we made with Ram, Cam, Demario, AK, Lat, Thomas, all show Loomis acting the opposite of a winner. He is afraid he can't find anyone else to do the job, because he is actually so bad at drafting, so he handicaps the team with these ugly contracts.

 

[St. Geezy]

You seem to think that everyone who comments on the Cap doesn't understand how it works. I understand how it works and why they use it like they do.

But I also know that it limits our off season signings to the bottom of the barrel as we've seen for the past few seasons. And the current players taking the biggest chunk of our payroll are not producing much.

Loomis follows the exact opposite pattern Bill Walsh advocated. Bill told his All Pro centre he would trade him soon, while he was in his prime and his value was high, rather than hold onto him till he declines. The moves we made with Ram, Cam, Demario, AK, Lat, Thomas, all show Loomis acting the opposite of a winner. He is afraid he can't find anyone else to do the job, because he is actually so bad at drafting, so he handicaps the team with these ugly contracts.

We have always bargain shopped for free agents.

And certainly last year we weren’t limited to bottom of the barrel as we in fact signed the player at the very top of the barrel, dollar value wise.

How does this fact always get ignored? We are so cash strapped yet we somehow signed the highest paid FA available to a mega contract?

 

[solarbear88]

We have always bargain shopped for free agents.

And certainly last year we weren’t limited to bottom of the barrel as we in fact signed the player at the very top of the barrel, dollar value wise.

How does this fact always get ignored? We are so cash strapped yet we somehow signed the highest paid FA available to a mega contract?

I assume you are talking about Chase Young. There were a number of Guards in FA who signed for more money than Chase Young, twice as much in some cases. So for a Rusher who was the No.2 pick in the draft, $10m really was a bargain bin signing and showed what the rest of the league thought of him.

I feel like the Saints are one of those shows where guys hit a Junkyard for parts to build a vehicle from scratch.

eg
14 Mar 2024 — Signings. Guard Robert Hunt, 5-year, $100 million contract. Guard Damien Lewis, 4-year, $53 million contract.

 

[St. Geezy]

I assume you are talking about Chase Young. There were a number of Guards in FA who signed for more money than Chase Young, twice as much in some cases. So for a Rusher who was the No.2 pick in the draft, $10m really was a bargain bin signing and showed what the rest of the league thought of him.

I feel like the Saints are one of those shows where guys hit a Junkyard for parts to build a vehicle from scratch.

eg
14 Mar 2024 — Signings. Guard Robert Hunt, 5-year, $100 million contract. Guard Damien Lewis, 4-year, $53 million contract.

Was referring to Derek Carr, a year ago, I.E. “Last year.”

This year, we made a concerted effort not to spend as much, meaning we could have, but as ML indicated, we decided to dial it back for long term purposes.

It’s like people wanted the team to dial it back to get things reset, and now that they’re doing that very thing even when they could be spending, it’s “See we can’t spend because of how we operate. Loomis sucks!”