Saints to interview Aaron Glenn on Jan. 10th [Nick Underhill: Glenn probably gets an in person 2nd interview in a couple of weeks] (93 Viewers)

[Brandon13]

That's fair, but I do think DA could have lost enough to get us a top 5 pick.

Probably.. but the collective morale was just so low with DA man.. would have been excruciating to witness play out lol.

 

[St. Geezy]

Probably.. but the collective morale was just so low with DA man.. would have been excruciating to witness play out lol.

Yep. Barring some massive exciting off-season free agent spending spree, future cap space be damned, and drafting a fun and exciting player like Jeanty, the team was on the brink of facing half empty/half visiting team fans in the Superdome each week for the foreseeable future.

 

[ELLIASJWILLIAMS]

My only issue w/ Glenn is he’s bringing over DAs scheme, and while on one end AG has proven he’s willing to blitz more than Allen, his defense still is more bend don’t break while forcing turnovers.

That type of defense needs to be complimented w/ an offense that’s capable of scoring quickly and regularly so that he other team has to pass the ball more.

FWIW Glen also started incorporating early down blitzes, something I wish DA/Woods would have done this year. It would have helped in the run game instead of letting the RBs attack the LOS and then attempting to corral the runner after they’ve picked up speed.

So I guess he’s innovated that defense, so I kind of just quelled my own thoughts. I’d be curious about who his OC will be.

The way Ben Johnson gets #’s in the run game is a thing of beauty. Didn’t see that type of scheming and design in Kubiak’s system despite Detroit also running Wide Zone concepts.

Glenn is warming on me though.

 

[Henny78]

Whoever is the next coach is, let him pick his staff...

 

[DaveXA]

I dont think you can objectively look at this franchise and say Loomis isnt to blame for where its at. He is going to be here, all we can do is hope he can fix it. But this roster, starters and depth, cap situation, etc is all Loomis' doing.

I would say the HC and cap situation is his doing, but he doesn't pick the coaching staff or players. He's never done that while GM. I suppose you could say he's responsible for the roster through the HC choice, but he as a general rule doesn't have anything to do with choosing the coaching staff and roster.

And any coach worth his salt is going to expect to pick his own staff and rebuild the roster. I hope Loomis gives the coach all the tools he needs to run the team the way he wants to. If history is any indication, Loomis has no problem giving the coach full autonomy to run the team.

 

[DSnfla]

Glenn is the Def Coord for the Lions, and their defense is not ranked high, so how has Glenn proven himself? According to the link, they are 20th this year allowing 342 ypg. They were 19th in 2023, allowing 336 ypg, so they've slightly regressed.

2024 NFL Defense Rankings: Team Pass and Rush Stats | FOX Sports

Find out where every NFL team ranks on defense following Week 18 of the 2024 season.

www.foxsports.com

When will people understand that stats and ranking are not the say all do all especially when it comes to if they will be a good HC or not. Payton's offensive ranking was not very good @ Dallas nor NYG. And maybe you should do some research and find out just how decimated the Lions defense was by injuries. SMH

 

[DSnfla]

Theres this as well. Im not real sure how Glenn came to be part of the HC landscape this year. His defenses havent been elite, and borderline average. It feels like Detroit is in a barnburner every week. They also have the most man games lost this season, so factor that in.

INJURIES INJURIES INJURIES ..... SMH

 

[DSnfla]

The fact you want numbers is silly. You go back around 30 years to name a few when the league and its rules were vastly different. Roethlisberger was developed by Cower more then Tomlin, but the point still stands. Name 1 franchise QB developed in the last 10 years by a defensive head coach. Name 1 defensive head coach that has gone to the superbowl in the last 10 years.

The simple truth is the trend is that offensive head coaches develop franchise QBs, and offensive head coaches win superbowls for the last 10 or so years. People who invest against the trend in stocks, crypto, real estate etc end up in bankruptcy far more often then not. The probabilities are the same here.

Never bet against the trend. Glenn coming here will likely not end up in the superbowl for his tenure here. If I gambled, thats where the smart money bet would be based on trends.

Are you serious???
John Fox, Pete Carroll, Belichick,Ron Rivera, Dan Quinn, While John Harbaugh was primarily a ST coach he did coach DBs. And he developed Jackson
Carroll developed Wilson , Rivera developed Newton all were considered franchise QBs.
How about right now? Ryans has Stroud , Quinn has Daniels

Also there are more HC that have offensive backgrounds so naturally the chances that a franchise QB will come from an Offensive HC

I'll find a lot more if I go back more than 10 yrs

 

[DSnfla]

you're completely out of context of the conversation. Please go back and read.

You do know that development does not stop after the 1st few yrs

 

[DSnfla]

Brady was developed into a franchise QB over 2 decades ago.

Again, you're completely out of context of the conversation which was naming when a QB was developed into a franchise QB by a defensive head coach in the last decade. Not when an already franchise QB won a superbowl who was developed by a defensive head coach.

Two very different things.

It makes no difference WHEN the development started it makes a difference that BB was D coach AND he continued to develop Brady into a multi SB winner, Development does not have a cutoff date

 

[DSnfla]

And Lamar Jackson, under a ST coach.

Also Harbaugh was a DB coach for a bit

 

[Saint Taysom]

FTR… I hope they do NOT hire Glenn. He’s gonna fail

 

[DSnfla]

Very good examples. 2. Out of how many? But they also never won superbowls either, which was part of the original criteria. I can concede to these two, because I think we'd all agree both are good enough with current coaches to win one, and still may this year.

As of now there are only 8 out of 32 defensive HCs so the % are not there, so your analogy is skewed

 

[DaveXA]

FTR… I hope they do NOT hire Glenn. He’s gonna fail

What makes you say/think that?

 

[DSnfla]

Right, thats where we are. Ideally, Loomis letting his HC do his job is where we need to be. But I agree with you in reality. Even if Loomis is 100% convinced Glenn is the right guy, he is going to go another direction if he cant keep his thumb pressed on the power.

If Loomis continues his ego power trip, we will end up with another puppet - there is no better puppet than a special teams coach who went 3-5 as interim. As much as Id like for someone to be able to wrench some power from him, when you are judge, jury and executioner....with zero pressure on your position - you keep doing what youre doing.

I want proof of this ego power trip you say Loomis is on, or you are just blowing smoke . C'mon , put up or shut up