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efil4stnias said:
your post was quite confusing.

You started with the median income thing and the correlation to pricing, but then went on some side track about finding an EV under $80k that has the towing capacity to pull what seems to be an inordinate amount of items you dont necessarily need. Its obviously your option, but it seems a bit hypocritical to question the pricing of EVs when you clearly spend that on luxury items.

I just wasnt following where you were going with that reply. Thats all.
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Yep - no problem... I am trying to address the discussion with Chuck... He covers a lot of ground... I'm also not critical of EV prices... I am pointing out that the pricing pulls a lot of would be buyers out of that market... just as the price of a BMW X5 would.
 
Infoman said:
Not sure I understand Chuck... I never said "people can't" anything as in an absolute statement.... my contention has always been a large portion of people can't - and won't.... not that all people can't... that's fairly obvious.

And I am not capping anything, I keep saying... as it stands now (today)... 10% is the best you can hope for... and yes, for significant growth a ton of things have to change... also not some outlandish statement or moving of the imaginary goal post.

My point was (that you are missing) is With the average Salary hanging around $60k or less.... that means a huge portion of the US can't afford ANY CAR that costs $40k or better (which is where nearly all EVs exist on the cost spectrum)... and typically don't have the capability/private property to install personal charging setups... this is also not some nonsensical statement. As I stated before - if the average American making an average salary decides they must have or even wants an EV... They are looking at a used 8 year old Leaf, Soul, Focus, Golf or Spark... that's about it. And good luck if you live in an apartment or rural area.... need a truck... have more than 3 kids.... needs 4wheel drive...

I mean if we are not going to add context to the discussion... and just throw out raw numbers and apples to hammers comparisons... what's the point?
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This is exhausting, you keep saying the same thing in different ways despite the data. I don't disagree that in the near term (<3 years), up to 10% of new car sales is reasonable. We can leave it at that.
 
superchuck500 said:
This is exhausting, you keep saying the same thing in different ways despite the data. I don't disagree that in the near term (<3 years), up to 10% of new car sales is reasonable. We can leave it at that.
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It is... I am posting verified data too... while giving contextual real world examples to support it... and you keep going back to 40K is 40k, while not acknowledging that endless mountains of buyer context hugely impacts any longer term growth in the EV market that generally starts at 40K... I don't see us disagreeing on much current state, or in the short term except for context.... we should probably leave it there. No disrespect if you took it that way Chuck... I do value your opinion and enjoy discussions with you.
 
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nolaspe said:
www.businessinsider.com

Tesla rescinds offers for full time employees as layoffs continue into 5th week

Tesla has begun rescinding offers for incoming full-time employees, according to sources, as it continues to send out layoff notices.
www.businessinsider.com www.businessinsider.com
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Saw a yahoo finance article this evening that a big "short stock " guy predicts TSLA will lose 70% of its current price due to Musk and his management and decision making. Seems to be deteriorating rapidly. He noted the fixation on robotaxi and AI, and saying it's all a distraction from the core issues facing Tesla.

I'm sure this will add to the decision making part.
 
1905 Infoman said:
In my opinion these horseless carriages will never be able to replace my suffolks. There's nowhere to refuel with the expensive refined oil. They cost 300 sawbucks and can only tow a wain hardly more than 100 rods. I mean, it's great if you're a print baron or northern cheesemonger, but for those of us working the fields, these machines will never be more than a novelty.
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Rickboy said:
I'm no Tesla supporter these days, but I take anything coming from a short seller with a Jupiter sized grain of salt.
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One day they will be right.
My mom hated Tesla and electric cars in general. She knows nothing about Elon Musk.
She can’t believe the government making us buy them.
 
staphory said:
One day they will be right.
My mom hated Tesla and electric cars in general. She knows nothing about Elon Musk.
She can’t believe the government making us buy them.
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How can she hate Tesla and know nothing about Musk? You mean she hated Tesla for the simple fact they mfg EVs only? and from her hatred of EVs she, thereby, hates Tesla?

And is the government "making" anyone buy an EV?

Did she hate the microwave when it was introduced in the late 70s?
 

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